Edmonton Serial Killer

[kindheart]

Good article Petti!

The maps shouts a few things...
This is very clear and i have noted this for a long time now that their appears to be a "doubles" aspect to these crimes. It seems to indicate that one woman is picked up and then they or he kills her at another location. The second guy then does the same? They must know each other to have a predetermined dumping spot for each pair, and they work together maybe changing roles? Desespere are there other "doubles" type crimes across Canada in your database?

Of course since we have been told that Thomas Svekla took his second date to the location where Rachel Quinney was left beforehand, Svekla could be a lone killer. But i am airing on the side of him being one part of the bigger picture.

Of note to me is that Debbie Lake and Charlene Gauld where found right near property belonging to Someone named Metro Svekla (appears to be an uncle?). He runs some type of farm i once read and that jives with what the police have said about "family connections" in the area SE of Edmonton.Perhaps Thomas did as is known in many theories "drop woman" in places most familiar or even from his childhood knowledge.

All speculation of course but i am sure the police have looked as it is their map, on their wall.

[Desespere]

I think the eight on the photo, if this is the one on the wall at RCMP, might all be attributed to Svekla. These eight might have something in common, MO or locale or something. If this is so, there are still 12 women who do not fit into this pattern.

1. Bernadette, found Oct 24, 1983.
The term I've used to describe what you're talking about Kindheart, if there be two, is an "echo" murder.
If these are echo murders, Bernadette's echos are
4. Monique Pitre, found Jan 8, 2003
5. Melissa Munch, found Jan 12, 2003
7. Rachel Quinney, found Jun 11, 2004

The above might also be
Bernadette's echo is Rachel
and Monique and Melissa are each other's echos. This might indicate two killers working at the same time or one who appeared to escalate for a time.

2. Edna Bernard, found Sep 23, 2002
Edna's echo is
6. Katie Ballentyne,  found Jul 17, 2003

3. Debbie Lake, found Apr 12, 2003
Debbie's echo is
8. Charlene Gauld, found Apr 26, 2005

Actually, what I've called echo is the response killing by a killer unknown to the other killer.
I've used the term 'shadow' to describe a killer who kills in response but they know each other but might not kill together.

I'll go through my db for other similar echo type stuff. There is a bit of this, that's why I called them echos and shadows.

[kindheart]

Five years don't make it any easier on victim's family

By DANIEL MACISAAC
Mon, January 7, 2008   
Tomorrow marks five years since the body of 30-year-old Monique Pitre was found decomposed and frozen in a farmer's field east of Edmonton.

And while a friend complains she has become just another name on the list of the city's missing women and wants her story told, Pitre's family says the anniversary represents only pain - and offers little hope.
"She was very pretty," the friend, a woman named Angie, wrote in an online comment. "She would give you anything she had to make you smile, she was smart, caring and a good friend.
"I miss her."

But while Pitre's mother agrees with that description she also stresses, "Monique and I didn't see eye to eye.

"She could be a really, really nice person," said Rose Pitre, 55, speaking from her home in London, Ont. "But she made her own life - and got hooked on drugs."
 
Addicted to crack cocaine, she resorted to prostitution to feed her habit.
Pitre's older brother Elmer Pitre, 39, also lives in London and confirmed he became estranged from his sister long before she moved to Alberta several years before her disappearance in November 2002.
"We weren't in touch," he said. "So, I didn't even know she'd disappeared until a police officer came to my mom's house to notify us they'd found her body."

Elmer says the family originally came from New Brunswick, and followed their military stepfather to Ontario while they were still children.
He described Monique as a skinny little girl who loved corn-on-the-cob. But he added they had drifted apart by the time they were teenagers - and he knows little about her friends or decision to move out west. "Our family is kind of torn apart," he said.
Elmer concedes it was still shocking to learn his sister had fallen into a life of drugs and prostitution - and says the fact that she was likely murdered is even more difficult to accept.
 
"We never talked, so that kind of makes me want to reverse time," he said.
And Rose described her own trip out to Edmonton in January 2003 to try to identify Pitre's body as "the very hardest thing I ever had to do in my entire life."

Rose said she was told by police that they do not suspect that Thomas Svekla, who has been charged in the deaths of two other prostitutes, is connected with Pitre's death.
Svekla, a former mechanic, has been charged with second-degree murder and interfering with human remains in the slayings of Rachel Quinney and Theresa Innis, and goes on trial next month.

http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Edmonton/2008/01/07/4756210-sun.html

[Desespere]

Five years ago for Monique, also for Melissa in the next couple of days. 

Finding Rachel in that area as well as Monique and Melissa might indicate an echo if police aren't connecting.

But still, the idea of a couple working together is still plausible.

[kindheart]

Well, i guess since Monique is not apart of potential charges related to Thomas Svekla-then we have this statement left.They are likely watching these or him/her like a freaking hawk. I just want to know who they got and see the families have some answers. We all get pissy here, but really this is all we want the police to do-make an arrest already!! Some answers!
~kindheart

Police had already suggested the deaths might be the work of several killers. But Simmill's statement Thursday suggested the RCMP may have at least one specific suspect in mind.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Crime/2007/10/22/4597445-cp.html

[kindheart]

Oh, and then there is this statement.

"But it was speculation of a serial killer that helped create the political momentum to establish KARE. When the killer is caught, he can consider himself a victim of his own success.In fact, he can take a little credit for changing the way missing persons files are investigated in Canada"

I have this quote but no location reference for it-does anyone have that from 2006-lost it a hard drive smash up!

[chelbell]

FEBRUARY 11, 1993.....HER NAME WAS ELAINA

[Adrian]

http://www.lastlinkontheleft.com/e2000kare.html
Please press link for more information, maps, and people in the STW, who have been killed.
There is definately a killer. It didn't end with Svekla in the slammer, and there are more missing.
When you press link, scroll down and you will see maps, and locations, of those found.