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Re: Edmonton Serial Killer
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2007, 06:17:44 AM »
Women gone but not forgotten
Edmonton Sun - Edmonton,Alberta,Canada
As early as next month, investigators from the Project KARE task force,
RCMP officers and search and rescue volunteers will launch a spring
campaign ...

http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Edmonton/2007/04/19/4067448-sun.html

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« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2007, 10:40:13 AM »
That is good news so KARE might have an idea where they or.So know I will ask why the hell didn't they do this 3 years ago.?
Maybe KARE should ask the Bible thumpers to help that way they would find them faster it did help in the Michal White case.

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« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2007, 02:24:30 PM »


 Burke was last seen on Dec. 9, 2004 by somebody near where she was living in the 118 Avenue area.

The 21-year-old is aboriginal, five-foot-seven and weighs 120 pounds. She has brown eyes, and her brown hair was peppered with red streaks at the time of her disappearance.

She was wearing black sneakers, blue jeans and a black bomber jacket. She wore black glasses and a diamond nose ring on the left side. Burke also went by the street name 'Angel.'

Ottenbreit was last seen May 9, 2004 in Edmonton. The 27-year-old white woman is five-foot-six and weighs about 120 pounds. She has blue eyes and red hair which was dyed blond when she was last seen, police said.

Brower is a 33-year-old Metis woman with long brown hair and brown eyes. She stands five-foot-three and weighs about 110 pounds. She was last seen on 118 Avenue and 70 Street by officers with Project KARE at 5:40 a.m. on May 13, 2004.

Police said she was hitch-hiking and trying to go west on the avenue.

The petite woman was wearing a black sweater and black jeans. She wore her hair long and has scarring on her left and right forearms. Brower is also known as 'Spider.'
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These are the women mentionned, but I wonder if they will find more?

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Re: Edmonton Serial Killer
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2007, 03:59:13 PM »
That is good that they are doing this, I just wish they would provide a bit more details about what they are still looking for and if that original 'profile' is still active. I think most people think the serial killer is busted and have forgetton about this now.

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« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2007, 11:57:33 AM »
I dont think so he or she is still out there picking up women and killing them.
What I don't understand is why the hell they did not do this years ago.WTF don't they think the familys need closer and know were there child or Mother is WTF.
This is nothing more than Van all over again everyone is yelling were or they going and Jack shit has been done.You have the Bible tumpers saying I'll save you NO one wants to be a hooker then they put up fuckin signs tell us to get out of there hood,
I have been asking the cops for years WHAT IS GOING ON.!!!!! I first asked them back in I think it was about 1999/2000 when one girl was found on 17th ST I remember the cops face she was shocked that I would even say something like that.My words were HELL man didn't you know Sherwood Park is the dumping ground for us Hoe's
Here is a question for Kare.Do you really.??????? Care

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Re: Edmonton Serial Killer
« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2007, 11:39:50 PM »
Women gone but not forgotten
Edmonton Sun - Edmonton,Alberta,Canada
As early as next month, investigators from the Project KARE task force,
RCMP officers and search and rescue volunteers will launch a spring
campaign ...

http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Edmonton/2007/04/19/4067448-sun.html


I noticed in this article there is a new cop in charge of the team at Kare. I know they change their posts in the RCMP and it likely means nothing, but a new person might mean new interest.

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Re: Edmonton Serial Killer
« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2007, 11:48:25 PM »
I cannot forget the woman I saw at my poi's house... wearing the same things as Dolores, with the same hair and looking a lot like her picture, only thinner in the face. About 24 hours after Kare last saw Dolores on 118 ave and 70 street.

Funny thing about my poi, also same last name as one of the people mentioned in the pickton trial.

I felt from the beginning he was part of a group, perhaps filming or being paid to find women. I don't know why, probably because his friend, also my poi, is, well.. his friend and he was there at that house that night too.

there were three women at that house that night, but I don't know what the other two looked like.

My poi owned property in one of the target areas. The one only ever dating Aboriginal women, although does not appear to be Aboriginal himself.

Whatever is happening in Edmonton, one, two or many killers... people, all of us, have to try and protect any possible future victims of sick men who think sex trade workers are uncared about so easy prey.




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Re: Edmonton Serial Killer
« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2007, 11:53:44 PM »
I dont think so he or she is still out there picking up women and killing them.
What I don't understand is why the hell they did not do this years ago.WTF don't they think the familys need closer and know were there child or Mother is WTF.
This is nothing more than Van all over again everyone is yelling were or they going and Jack shit has been done.You have the Bible tumpers saying I'll save you NO one wants to be a hooker then they put up fuckin signs tell us to get out of there hood,
I have been asking the cops for years WHAT IS GOING ON.!!!!! I first asked them back in I think it was about 1999/2000 when one girl was found on 17th ST I remember the cops face she was shocked that I would even say something like that.My words were HELL man didn't you know Sherwood Park is the dumping ground for us Hoe's
Here is a question for Kare.Do you really.??????? Care

I saw some of the signs on 95 street between jasper ave and about 114 ave have been changed to read "Exploitation is not tolerated in our neighbourhood" Report-a-john signs. So people in the hood can phone in the license plate number of anyone caught appearing to be looking for a date. Perhaps these signs are a ploy to get license plate numbers of anyone who might become a suspect in the murders. But to me it seems like a sick way of getting the neighbourhood to "help out."

If it's only illegal to speak on the streets, or solicit/communicate for the purposes of selling sex, then how can the police justify harrassing men who may be driving through? They haven't broken any laws unless they talk about sex for money with someone. Not just driving around. I think those signs are sick and stupid and incite intolerance toward sex trade workers as human beings.

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Re: Edmonton Serial Killer
« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2007, 06:45:34 AM »
New site, new cop.... I hope new information too.

Women gone but not forgotten
Edmonton Sun - Edmonton,Alberta,Canada
As early as next month, investigators from the Project KARE task force,
RCMP officers and search and rescue volunteers will launch a spring
campaign ...

http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Edmonton/2007/04/19/4067448-sun.html


I noticed in this article there is a new cop in charge of the team at Kare. I know they change their posts in the RCMP and it likely means nothing, but a new person might mean new interest.

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Re: Edmonton Serial Killer
« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2007, 06:46:20 AM »
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My poi

Has kare ever talked to you about you POI yet?

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Re: Edmonton Serial Killer
« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2007, 11:03:07 AM »
I think there is girls gone missing and there just not saying anything.Maybe by not putting it in the news they think they will be pissing of the SK and watching them/her.?

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« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2007, 11:05:51 AM »
I talked to one investigator about the poi with the same last name as one of the people mentioned in the pickton trial and he was investigated. The investigator told me "we've already dealt with him." At that meeting I told him about the other poi who has property in a target zone. The investigator said they would check into him. I haven't heard anything - I guess that's over a year now.

The investigator asked me if I thought the poi had women stay at his house because of drugs. I said I had never seen that poi ever take or be near drugs so I couldn't answer that question. The other one I saw smoking crack with a young woman in the back of his building. There was another young woman, possibly a teenager there and a third came up the stairs from the dirt floor basement, the one that looked like a dark, dreay chamber, a dungeon. They all scooted. My poi often disappeared for hours at a time, within his building with  passageways underground.

The poi with the same last name had "a guy" stay over at his house sometimes when he came from High Level. I found a stolen truck in a garage near the poi's property in a target zone. This truck matches the description of the truck Theresa Innes' body was found in in Fort Saskatchewan garage, Svekla's truck. I saw a guy at the poi's property in the target zone in early April 2004, the same month I found the stolen truck. This guy, I remember, looked at me and I think he looks a lot like Svekla. He had round dark sunglasses, he wasn't very tall, he had very little hair. He wore khaki coloured pants, brown shoes and a dress shirt. It was the afternoon and very sunny outside. We were under construction. The three of them were talking to each other, my one poi, giggling, the guy who looked like Svekla turned to me and I heard him say to the other two, "that's her?" and the poi who owns the property said "sssshhhh." and giggled. I was troubled a little, thought it weird.

I told the investigator I saw Rachel in a bar in the target zone when I was there with the poi who has the same last name. I left the table and Rachel was facing the direction I had come from, only one table there really for her to sit down at. I always wonder if she sat there with the poi with the same last name. I was sitting to her left, he was sitting to her left. To her right a few tables but all empty. She looked straight at me, we said nothing. I had a sad feeling for her. I think she knew the poi who has the same last name.

Anyway, I want to be careful about how much I say. It just all seems too heavy a coincidence. They and all the women and girls they hung out with, yet the one poi, my friend, hiding his behaviour, appeared to cover up his behaviour when I was around.


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Re: Edmonton Serial Killer
« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2007, 06:50:12 AM »
Yeah that is a lot of coincidences. I doubt the police would tell you if they flagged the guy though. But that does seem weird. It could also be that this guy feeding into the police too.

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Re: Edmonton Serial Killer
« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2007, 06:52:54 AM »
I think there is girls gone missing and there just not saying anything.Maybe by not putting it in the news they think they will be pissing of the SK and watching them/her.?

If the press is playing along with the police by doing this, then that is disgusting. I think the best strategy now would be to release as much info as they can and hope the tips \ people who did not know they were witness to someone come forward.

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Re: Edmonton Serial Killer
« Reply #29 on: April 24, 2007, 05:50:17 AM »
It is difficult for me to understand why the police would not release information about missing women who also happen to live "high risk" lifestyles. If the cops are trying to piss off the serial killer, what reaction do they think they will get? If the killer wants attention and he's not getting attention, he might just decide to kill more and more until the police do give him some attention, via the media.

I don't think I can accept any justification for not releasing to the public the fact there are more missing women, if indeed there are more missing women. How can they expect to get help from the public if the public doesn't even know who's missing? It's like they don't want tips.

I think they will release to the public after a woman has been missing a year or more, as in the case with Maggie, Delores and Corrie.
Kare says they are organizing a wide sweep search and they mention the three women's names. I wonder if there are more names we don't know of and this search is a way to look for them too without letting the public know they are looking for more than three missing women.



 

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