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Re: Edmonton Serial Killer
« Reply #45 on: April 27, 2007, 12:45:06 PM »
Hi Miss A!!! Wow, glad to hear from you. Yes, I am bothered by the lack of anything even if they would just confirm that in fact another serial killer(s) is out there. Something or anything. It's a year until his trial, in the meantime spring is here and that I think is when they start finding bodies.

Is anyone else concerned at the lack of activity on this case right now? Nothing since Svekla's arrest. Is someone letting him take the blame?

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« Reply #46 on: April 27, 2007, 12:48:44 PM »
Des as you can see the avatar has been changed.

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Re: Edmonton Serial Killer
« Reply #47 on: April 27, 2007, 01:27:59 PM »
His name was Toy or Troy he was the cop your talikng about.He was put on leave but now he has a job checking in old building in town.I think he is still a cop.It is hard to fire them BUT HE SHOULD BE GONE.!!!!!!!

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« Reply #48 on: April 27, 2007, 02:34:47 PM »
His name is Constable Elvin Toy. Here is an interesting document on him.

http://www.police.edmonton.ab.ca/Pages/Internal%20Affairs%20Decisions/2007%20Decisions/Elvin%20Toy.pdf

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Re: Edmonton Serial Killer
« Reply #49 on: April 27, 2007, 09:37:25 PM »
Des as you can see the avatar has been changed.

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LOL! Now an avatar from the leaky cauldron... that's funny.  :D It is a mystic picture and very pretty.

Crafty, I do believe people have a right to express themselves artistically, to express themselves in all ways. I hope you understand I was perplexed by the meaning.

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Re: Edmonton Serial Killer
« Reply #50 on: April 27, 2007, 09:57:52 PM »
Hi Miss A!!! Wow, glad to hear from you. Yes, I am bothered by the lack of anything even if they would just confirm that in fact another serial killer(s) is out there. Something or anything. It's a year until his trial, in the meantime spring is here and that I think is when they start finding bodies.

Kare has adamantly stated that they have frequently said they believe there are more than one killer responsible for the murders of women in Edmonton. I'll try and find the most recent quote, I think it was made when Svekla was charged with Rachel's murder. Svekla might be responsible for Rachel, as well as Melissa Munch and Monique Pitre. The guy who was storing cars for Svekla said there were three names on the warrant and one of them was Rachel's.

We talked before about Svekla possibly freezing Innes' body months earlier and had to move her at the time he did because the temperatures were rising quickly in High Level at the time. Svekla's sister opened the bag because she thought it was dirty laundry that was beginning to smell. Theresa may have been murdered within the last two days prior to Svekla coming to Edmonton, but the bag was seen in the back of that truck prior - through the freezing winter of 2005-2006.

It's hard for me to decide if Svekla acted alone in Theresa and Rachel's murders, or if he's part of a bigger circle of people. Maybe there are four or five out there preying on women in BC, AB, SK and MB. I do feel certain Kare are looking for more than one killer. It is conceivable that 1/2 of the Kare cases are committed by people who only commit one murder each. This is a stat in Vancouver and I am only assuming the same could be true for Edmonton.

I read Kare is looking at 42 murder cases. The remainder are missing people.They go back far but there are very few before 1970 compared to the many, many since.

I feel there is more than one killer who has killed more than one person. I feel they are acutely aware of each other but may have never met. I feel one killer is actually a set of three. I also feel at least one of them murders outside Alberta. I feel another may have been active for over 30 years. These are just my feelings. I may have been looking at my database waaayyyyy tooo looonnnnggg!

Also, here's a link to an article talking of the psychic Alan Hatfield that went to Rachel's murder site in the summer of 2005 and claims to have captured a male spirit on tape saying the word "Tom". The claim was made I believe after the Sun reported that Svekla discovered Rachel's body in 2004. So while in June 2006 Hatfield was aware of Svekla's involvement in Rachel's death, he claims he heard the name "Tom" the year prior to anyone knowing about Svekla's involvement with Rachel. An EPS officer was present at the 2006 session.

Hatfield feels there are four of them with one acting as the "dumping guy." This theory makes sense in terms of my own poi(s)

http://www.lastlinkontheleft.com/e2004quinney.html

What I really find a shame is that police had to have suspected Svekla from the get-go and it was only when he was arrested for Theresa's murder did a dna sample get ordered. And that was for a completely unrelated, yet violent, matter. But there appears no other dna matches. The trial is a year away. Perhaps more charges will be laid against Svekla. If they lable him a serial killer, perhaps they can charge him with first degree murder, showing his killings are planned and they are sexual in nature.

I think experts have said there is a sexual sadistic element to some of the murders. I still don't get why he's charged with 2nd degree. They must have something more coming.

I wonder if the new team leader at Kare replaced Inspector Sekela?
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Re: Edmonton Serial Killer
« Reply #51 on: April 27, 2007, 10:24:48 PM »
Des as you can see the avatar has been changed.

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LOL! Now an avatar from the leaky cauldron... that's funny.  :D It is a mystic picture and very pretty.

Crafty, I do believe people have a right to express themselves artistically, to express themselves in all ways. I hope you understand I was perplexed by the meaning.

I understand the confusion.  I never meant to offend anyone.  It is actually part of the cover art for Book 7.  My son and I really enjoy reading the books.  Like I said I am a fan.

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Re: Edmonton Serial Killer
« Reply #52 on: April 27, 2007, 10:28:04 PM »
Des, i thought that Svekla was called a serial killer.  Even though he didn't fit the definition.  I am just glad that he is off the streets.

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« Reply #53 on: April 27, 2007, 10:28:28 PM »
His name was Toy or Troy he was the cop your talikng about.He was put on leave but now he has a job checking in old building in town.I think he is still a cop.It is hard to fire them BUT HE SHOULD BE GONE.!!!!!!!

I heard from a friend several months ago that an aquaintance of hers, now working up north, was a sex trade worker in Edmonton before moving. They talked about the cases here. The acquaintance said there was a cop in Edmonton, an asian cop, my friend named "Day" who would be nice to the women when he worked with a partner, but when he was alone, he would take them to the outskirts of town, beat them, leave them there. The acquaintance said she felt the cop might have killed some.

I believe my friend meant to say a different name. I can not in any way verify what she said, but I know my friend would not make that up. I'm not accusing, I'm just stating that a woman from the streets here said these things.

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« Reply #54 on: April 27, 2007, 10:31:55 PM »
Crafty, some call him a serial killer and others dispute that term because their definition is three. Some say two, some say three. It might end up being more than three by the time the cops are done. But there are more killers out there.

If a person is a serial killer, fit the definition of serial killer, are called that by the police, then why wouldn't they be charged with first degree murder, because the nature of the crimes? Svekla may be a serial killer by definition, but he's charged with two counts of second degree murder. It just doesn't make any sense to me at all. But at least he's charged.

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« Reply #55 on: April 27, 2007, 11:01:23 PM »
I am glad that he is off the streets.  I don't understand why the second degree murder charge either.

I hope that the look at Toy more.  I believe he is now on the team that look at derilect houses, which means he is still in the heart of it all.  I have been told that he isn't somewhat that you don't want to cross.

I am attending a meeting next month and the chair was informed that not to have Toy come from derelect housing, to get another officer.  I thought that was an interesting comment to say the least.

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Re: Edmonton Serial Killer
« Reply #56 on: April 28, 2007, 05:43:50 PM »
Don't forget Toy was involved I hear in the NO RAT T shirts, as well as the INfamous JOKE ON HOW TO ARREST AN INDIAN THAT CIRCULATED AROUND THE EPS TO ABOUT 20 OFFICERS, BEFORE DISCOVERED

The jokes couldn't have been that great, as they refused to show them. Mel Buffola, was asking for a laugh, but he was not allowed. I wonder why???We are still waiting for copies to be shown, instead of being "handled internally'. Puke!

The taserings, beatings, have to stop. It is pretty bad when a victim is afraid to go to the cops, it is just sick. A few or more bad apples spoil the bunch. I wish EPS would start with a clean slate, and let the trouble makers go, and leave the good cops alone.There would be more people wanting to recruit also.

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Re: Edmonton Serial Killer
« Reply #57 on: April 29, 2007, 11:15:45 AM »


What is it, stalking, force or familiarity, or a known trick???

It seems to me we got a few assholes walking, cruising the streets, here, looking for the "right" gal to choose. I wonder what are the specifics they look for? Are they stoned, drunk, standing on a corner, small, petite, strungout, dressed a certain way, or do they stalk first, tell others, the more or less deliver the gal to the killer(s), or do they cruise around till some gal catches their eye? I wonder how many gals were plain lucky , by NOT getting that vehicle.

Is familiaritya clue? Someone met in a bar, had a few drinks with, the guy you spoke to about your problems, the guy you had a hoot with, the guy or gal, called "good people". Are drugs the lure?

Most of these gals were street smart, they had their DNA done, gave vitals, relatives information, in case she went missing. Ellie May Myers was very street smart, took down licence plates, watched out for other gals, had class, was very much aware of a Killer out there. She still went missing.

The police in the past have mentionned a team, that work in tandem, and sometimes apart, they also mentionned a possible inner city worker who befriends the gals, they have checked their own, and we are no farther ahead, in catching these freaks.They talked of a loner, likes hunting and fishing, like most of Alberta.How many creeps does this city have ??? ??? >:( >:( >:( >:(

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Re: Edmonton Serial Killer
« Reply #58 on: April 29, 2007, 11:54:21 AM »
How many creeps? OK, I read once that 1 in 450 straight men will commit a sex offence in their life. This does not include streaking, humping in public etc. Just real sex offences

1 in about 1000 females will commit a sex offence in thier life time.

Most female sex offenders though, just have 1 victim. A fair sized percentage of male sex offenders can have as many as a hundred.

Close to 1 million people like in Edmonton area. That means there are 5000 female sex offenders, and roughly 10,000 male ones. Say 1000 of them are constant offenders, that is a lot of creepy people out there.

Mind you I think that 80 - 90% of sex crimes are against people they know very well.

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« Reply #59 on: April 29, 2007, 12:29:43 PM »
Close to 1 million people like in Edmonton area. That means there are 5000 female sex offenders, and roughly 10,000 male ones. Say 1000 of them are constant offenders, that is a lot of creepy people out there.

Mind you I think that 80 - 90% of sex crimes are against people they know very well.

That just sucks big time. I know that most sex offences are behind closed doors in the homes of the victims.The sex offenders who are psycho, or crazy, are still out there, doing there thing, and getting away. Anonymous.

But if you have a few sk's running around like we seem to do, think of the carnage, they have caused.If they knoweach other, they pretty well own the road. They can have some one keeping six, another, the friendly sociopath who befriends, and the warped ones who are sadistic monsters. It is incredible.Plus they could have a female, who helps to do the luring, and getting to "know" the gal, to see if she would make a good captive, or kill.

I would also think the woman to be plain, mousy, and jealous of the men's attraction to these girls and woman.  >:( >:( >:( >:(

 

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